dmiessler.com | grep understanding - Latest Comments in Google and Big Brother

Re: Google and Big Brother

brooksgarrett — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:45:18 -0000

Phew. I was 5 minutes from driving to your apartment for one of those "Are you serious???" debates.

Re: Google and Big Brother

Daniel Miessler — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:01:54 -0000

I was waiting for you to show up, Brooks. Yes, I was kidding. That's what people say right before they lose their rights.

Re: Google and Big Brother

brooksgarrett — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:55:58 -0000

"At least we'll have someone to protect us"? Daniel, please tell me this is satire at best.

"So bring on your clubs and parties, your acrobats and magicians, your dare-devils, jet cars, motor-cycle helicopters, your sex and heroin, more of everything to do with automatic reflex. If the drama is bad, if the film says nothing, if the play is hollow, sting me with the theremin, loudly. I'll think I'm responding to the play, when it's only a tactile reaction to vibration. But I don't care. I just like solid entertainment."

The only protection we can be afforded is that which we guarentee ourselves. The police have no duty to protect citizens, if you don't believe me see Warren v. District of Columbia, 444 A.2d (D.C. App. 1981) (en banc) which is discussed at http://www.firearmsandliber....

No government in history has ever made it a priority to protect its citizens, whether the worst dictatorship nor the most benevolent democracy. This is truly where the idea that those who trade liberty for security deserve neither.

This is not to say Google should not do business as usual, but it is our duty to insure the government does not intrude and infringe upon private business as is the case with our current telecomm industry.

Re: Google and Big Brother

Jonathan S. — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:49:17 -0000

"Maybe it’s not such a bad thing. At least we’ll have someone there to protect us."

Well, as long you're not doing something considered "terroristic" by the government. What if one day all atheists are considered a threat to National security? Then you might think twice about the NSA or any other entity having such civil-liberty-violating practices in place.

I say appropriate probable cause is still necessary, not just an open tap. No more of this tapping straight into the central offices like they were doing AT&T and all the other telecomm's.