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Re: 5 Ron Paul Quotes That Scare Me

Jennifer — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 11:49:04 -0000

what is so scary about these comments? it's truth. I agree that the truth can be scary sometimes but you should really do more research on global warming....its all a scam. PLEASE people get informed!!! and stop believing everything the TV and media tells us.

Re: 5 Ron Paul Quotes That Scare Me

Joe — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 15:10:11 -0000

I don't see anything wrong with those quotes, they make perfect sense. The Founding Fathers were religious, blacks only voted for Obama because he's black, and people use have a "reverse religion" view when it comes to Christianity, much like affirmative action. Lastly, there is a HUGE disagreement in the scientific community regarding global warming. And when it was discovered that there was no real evidence to support global warming, they renamed it "Climate Change." So far Ron Paul has never NOT made sense.

Re: 5 Ron Paul Quotes That Scare Me

Marcus Layton Hird — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:05:55 -0000

The thing is that he is right....duhhhhh
stuiped!!!!!!

Re: 5 Ron Paul Quotes That Scare Me

Tatiana — Mon, 05 May 2008 03:50:13 -0000

"I work in fuel engineering, and I can assure you that there is no “science” to the Al Gore version of global warming. Most of my co-workers think the concensus on man-caused global warming is proof of how stupid “the people” are."

You're an engineer, but you are claiming to know more about the climate than climatologists? LOL

Re: 5 Ron Paul Quotes That Scare Me

Matt J — Fri, 02 May 2008 08:00:51 -0000

I work in fuel engineering, and I can assure you that there is no "science" to the Al Gore version of global warming. Most of my co-workers think the concensus on man-caused global warming is proof of how stupid "the people" are.

Actual temperature readings show a cyclical pattern to global temperature. It has been on an upswing in the last 10 years, but the cycle seems to take 14 to years to fluctuate. There are a handful of researchers who have been tracking a correlation between sunspot activity and global temperatures and they report that solar activity has recently gone into hibernation. I'll spare you the actual science, but they are waiting to see if a mini ice age is about to occur. But most actual climate scientists believe the earth's temperature is cyclical, and none of them were invited to contribute to the United Nations' reports on climate change. The "scientists" cited in the report are mostly bureaucrats, chief among them, NASA's Hansen who arguably touched off the Al Gore obsession when Gore chaired the Senate Committee on Science and Space.

Re: 5 Ron Paul Quotes That Scare Me

Ricardo Nieva — Sun, 23 Dec 2007 19:24:41 -0000

The Founding Fathers envisioned a robustly Christian yet religiously tolerant America, with churches serving as vital institutions that would eclipse the state in importance.

i agree with Sonny moreover As long as there is tolerance i dont care if he is Christian or whatever. why should the state biased against christianity. I think that is his point. if local states want it its up to them.

Maybe it would be good if RP would talk more about this.

Re: 5 Ron Paul Quotes That Scare Me

perk23 — Sat, 24 Nov 2007 00:06:15 -0000

Here's what Jefferson wrote to a Baptist congregation regarding religion in 1802:

Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man & his god, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, thus building a wall of separation between church and state.

Notice the last words of the letter, "building a wall of separation between church and state". That was written by a Founder of our country when he was president--just what Ron Paul wants to get closer to.

Re: 5 Ron Paul Quotes That Scare Me

Mike Flugennock — Sun, 14 Oct 2007 16:56:43 -0000

Actually, if the race quotes seem "iffy", this sure as hell isn't:

http://www.stormfront.org/f...

Yeah, that's right, Stormfront... that Stormfront.

Re: 5 Ron Paul Quotes That Scare Me

Daniel Miessler — Wed, 19 Sep 2007 15:03:05 -0000

@Amanda

Surely you understand that someone who has said something stupid could then say something that wasn't. Just because someone gives an opposite view at some later point doesn't mean they never gave the previous view.

This isn't proof that he did say these things, but what you offered is not proof that he didn't.

Re: 5 Ron Paul Quotes That Scare Me

Amanda — Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:59:43 -0000

I really think you should be careful about the things you "quote" people as saying.I hope you will not take this as a personal attack, as really I am just exacerbated by the fact that your blog could have an impact on how others form their opinions. Please take a look at this quote from Ron Paul:

"Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans only as members of groups and never as individuals. Racists believe that all individual who share superficial physical characteristics are alike; as collectivists, racists think only in terms of groups. By encouraging Americans to adopt a group mentality, the advocates of so-called "diversity" actually perpetuate racism. Their intense focus on race is inherently racist, because it views individuals only as members of racial groups."

As I'm sure you can concede, no intelligent being would ever make racist comments, and then speak out against racism as an "ugly form of collectivism."

Please quote responsibly.

Re: 5 Ron Paul Quotes That Scare Me

daniel — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 16:35:51 -0000

The fact that staffers wrote the quotes in question is irrelevant. He put his name to them ands has to this day NEVER disavowed the principles, which many of the budding racists on this comment page have defended. Paul is clearly CLUELESS about the experience of discrimination common to millions of Americans who aren't of pure European ancestry; only a clueless person would say the advocates of diversity are racist and mention nothing about police brutality, bank redlining, housing discrimination, the war on drugs AS RACIST, etc.

As far as church and state - the founding fathers envisioned a Christian nation? Show me a single quote that supports that. Show me Madison, Jefferson, Hamilton, Adams, or Franklin saying that. To the contrary, they were anti-clerical deists.

Paul looks good only in comparison to the nihilistic, cynical Republicans we are used to. But he's no friend to the common American, no progressive, and not a saviour. He's just an old school conservative who elevates selfishness to a high virtue. I'm not impressed.

Re: 5 Ron Paul Quotes That Scare Me

ABC — Mon, 09 Jul 2007 04:32:54 -0000

He's written on racism before himself, and believes that the government does more to perpetuate it through dividing people into groups with 'group rights' and 'group politics' etc than virtually any other institution. As far as church and state; he's right about the Founders. It's the establishment clause, not the separation clause.

Re: 5 Ron Paul Quotes That Scare Me

Richard — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 03:48:27 -0000

The amazing thing is that these five quotes (two of which were not written by him) are being considered what's going to hurt him in the campaign. I've seen these quotes elsewhere on other blogs, and they are being tossed around as though they'll be the downfall of Ron Paul. But since only three were written by him, all they state is that he is pro-religion. As an atheist, I am OK with that. If you wish to shout your religious beliefs, be my guest. Just don't FORCE me to obey it, follow it, or believe it. And I won't FORCE you to obey, follow, or believe in my beliefs. That is what separation of church and state is truly about. You are free to have your religion and to have it guide you; the government just can't force you to practice or not practice a religion.

Re: 5 Ron Paul Quotes That Scare Me

Dennis — Thu, 21 Jun 2007 14:56:45 -0000

Ron Paul is the most principalled person in Washington and will be able to weather any and all storms coming his way. His record is consistent as he never wavers from the United States Constitution. He's did the unimagineable by being elected to Congress on 3 separate occasions. That doesn't happen to people who lie to their constituents. Wake up America and elect him already!

Re: 5 Ron Paul Quotes That Scare Me

Sean — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 13:17:28 -0000

Well that would be interesting if he actually said most of those things. Your racist comments are well known quotes that were not written by paul at all, but one of his assistants that did his newsletter. Unfortunate quotes indeed, but not his words.

But I guess your not enough of a journalist to research your stories before writing them.

Re: 5 Ron Paul Quotes That Scare Me

Dick Nasty — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 01:29:08 -0000

I think that whomever did say those first two quotes are exactly correct. I have to travel to DC every day and let me tell you, all the crime and violence in that city, well, it sure as hell isn't caused by Caucasian, Spanish or Indian people. I think the guy has traditional values and he sees that America has been going down the tubes for a long time. There really isn't anything THAT scary about what he's said. There isn't anything wrong with wanting to get some people back into society with values. Now, if he starts preaching religious fundamentalism, then we may have a problem. but one or two quote about it...nah...

Re: 5 Ron Paul Quotes That Scare Me

Daniel Miessler — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 01:20:44 -0000

Hmm, good point. Let me do something about that...

Re: 5 Ron Paul Quotes That Scare Me

Joebob — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 01:19:25 -0000

Nice of you to make the "edit" disclaimer harder to read compared to the rest of the article, not to mention at the bottom of the text... after you've had to read the quotes falsely attributed to Ron Paul.

Re: 5 Ron Paul Quotes That Scare Me

Wed, 13 Jun 2007 00:32:28 -0000

brainiac, those are a good points too. But I feel that with all the opposition Ron Paul will likely face in Congress, and given the huge political and legal inertia in this country, he wouldn't be able to go that far. And though he might theoretically support a state's right to censor, at least he is against the federal right to do the same. I think it would be very difficult for a state to censor its people, given the Internet and national media outlets, but it is still a valid concern.

Most importantly, though, Ron Paul brings the gluttony of government perpetrated on both sides of the aisle to the national stage. He gets the message out, and makes people discuss it. Let's face it, he has a small chance of winning, but seeing a man on national television in a presidential debate say that our government is actually hurting our people is extremely valuable. In a parliamentary system, it might even make an impact in this election, but I hope he merely inspires individuals and future candidates to look at the problem of shrinking government. Based on the amount of discussion he generates, especially on the Internet, I can't help but think his message is reaching people.

It is 1983, and we need to wake up and realize we are in trouble tomorrow if we don't see what is happening today.

Re: 5 Ron Paul Quotes That Scare Me

J. Allen — Tue, 12 Jun 2007 23:52:24 -0000

It's not what he says that bothers me, he can say whatever he wants. It's what he does that has my undivided attention. I've seen politicians say things for years, and don't think twice about it because I know they're pulling my leg or just trying to get my vote. What concerns me is what they do once they get in office. As a recent example, remember "I'm a uniter, not a divider"? Yeah, that worked out well. Ron Paul's voting record matches up with his stance and his statements. The point is this: Whether you agree with him on certain issues or not, you can bet that he's not going to limit your freedom, he's going to give what you deserve back to you, and start cutting the fat in huge clumps. That is exactly what we need right now, otherwise this country's going to die from political gluttony.

-J.

Re: 5 Ron Paul Quotes That Scare Me

Daniel Miessler — Tue, 12 Jun 2007 23:42:31 -0000

You raise a good point about the Federalism issue; that worries me as well. I think he's worth supporting, however, based on the strength of his overall stance. To me it's about integrity and intelligence, and he has both in abundance.

Re: 5 Ron Paul Quotes That Scare Me

brainiac — Tue, 12 Jun 2007 23:39:20 -0000

Ron Paul has a very narrow view of the Bill of Rights, and doesnt think the 14th makes them apply to the states anyhow. If it was up to him states could ban guns, birth control, teach creationsim is science class, censor, etc.... Thats what he calls "states rights" or "federalism". He's a part of the constitution in exile movement. Its taking the country back in time over a hundred years before the civil war. Thats whats scary about Ron Paul, not these foolish quotes.

BTW he's also very anti-abortion and would ban it in all circumstances if he could. Im not sure if thats because he's very relgious or because of his extreme ideology. I think its probably both.

Re: 5 Ron Paul Quotes That Scare Me

Daniel Miessler — Tue, 12 Jun 2007 23:37:01 -0000

What's even more interesting is that people continue to misconstrue my post; I am in fact a HUGE Ron Paul supporter. I donate to his campaign, I have a bumper sticker on my car, and I talk about him to anyone who will listen.

The reason these quotes "scared" me when I heard them is because anything that hurts his chances of getting elected scares me.

Re: 5 Ron Paul Quotes That Scare Me

Patrick — Tue, 12 Jun 2007 23:34:20 -0000

That's interesting, those quotes have made me like Ron Paul a bit, and I was started to get comfortable disliking him. Interesting how you wanted to make him look bad but actually seem to have made him look good in my eyes.

Re: 5 Ron Paul Quotes That Scare Me

Tue, 12 Jun 2007 23:32:06 -0000

PS - Thomas Jefferson rules, Tom G, great point